Pastors immobilizing their people by teaching them dependence, learned helplessness, they say things that sounds right to the ear but wrong to your conscience.
beware of false teachers
1 Timothy 4:1-2
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
but please read the entire chapter
Matthew 7:15-16
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16"You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?…
Jeremiah 23:16
This is what the LORD Almighty says: "Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the LORD.
Here's a link to more verses if you are interested.
http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-15.htm
they use phrases like “God is in control”, “don’t judge”, “you must forgive” They have become the thought police even guilting you for having thoughts of avoiding a person who you sense may inflict harm or put you in danger. Discerning is not judging. That discerning of danger is your inner man telling you to get the hell away from that person.
“God is in control”God is only in control if you allow him to be. God is not a dictator and everyone has a free will to do right or wrong.
Two examples Adam and Eve they chose to disobey God they knew the consequences of their actions if they disobeyed. If God controlled everything he would have stopped them or even removed temptation all together the serpent and the tree. Adam and Eve were adults not babies. As parents of babies we remove all obstacles to protect them. But Adam and Eve were adults God treated them as such and expected them to act accordingly. Basically.. they had a choice.
Why would preachers teach us that we have no power over our own lives? I suppose to make us easier to control?
A preacher that teaches this doctrine has another agenda in mind and not the heart of God. How does this apply to narcissism? You have many choices. You have choices to do good in this world according to your conscience or bad. You can choose to stay with your narcissistic abuser and live with it or you can leave, go no contact and heal. You don't have to take its and you don't deserve it. It's not in God's great scheme of things for you to be abused, beaten, manipulated, tortured, yelled at. There is no reward in the great beyond for putting up with this abuse. It’s not your lot in life be abused and you should just get over it that’s how it is, forgive them besides you are a sinner too. NO that’s a lie they want you to believe. Intentionally inflicting pain no matter what kind of pain upon another person is wrong and a sin. Did God plan for Cain to murder Abel? No God warned Cain he was starting in the wrong direction tried to turn him around. I’m not going to read it to you but you can find it in Genesis 4.
Another thing preachers say to control us is "don't judge." Mr Smakintosh did a video on this. Preachers tell you don't judge others but most of all don't judge them. What they are saying is close your eyes to my faults I know what's best for you. Don’t try to discern if I am sinning. This us gaslighting. Never mind what I do, you need to do what I tell you. I was told as a child “do as I say not as I do”… That’s also hypocrisy!! The rules are for you not me.
The next thing is they have their fingers in your pocket or wallet. They need things... Nice things… So they guilt you into tithing or donating your money and time to their projects, they have so many projects.
They can't drive around in a shabby car Mrs pastor needs a brand new Mercedes. They can't take public transportation going out of town, like you do, they need a jet and a big one. They can't stay in an apparent or modest home it needs to be a mansion or horse ranch maybe both. What you give is never enough. That Mercedes needs gas the jet needs fuel that mansion needs landscaping. You can't have your preacher mowing his own estate that you helped pay for.
But YOU don't judge ME.
You are condemned for individual thinking. Isn't that like abuse from your narcissist? The abuser will attack you if you question any of their actions. Entitlement.... Another trait of narcissism. they feel entitled to abuse and lord themselves over you demanding money and things.
The apostle Paul made tents in with the community. found in Acts 18:1-3
What about visiting the sick and those in the hospital. No they don't have time for that. Remember the time when pastors actually did that? About a week ago I heard a pastor tell his congregation that THEY would be doing the visitations. WHAT???
Do they care about the community? When the community loses one of their own children because some sicko murdered a child in a motel across the street from the church does the pastor take up an offering for her family or in the least even offer up prayers to God to comfort the parents and family of the child? I think you know the answer. There’s fundraising to do!! I think he was even out of town at the time at another church. How convenient. So while the community that pays for his many trappings he can’t even console the parents who lost their little girl in a horrific and tragic method.
No but the pastor will give thousands into another pastors ministry. One who is well off already. No just like the narcissist they only do things for appearances only. They don't help the poor, they help the rich just like the regular narcissist do. They will give thousands maybe millions to fundraisers to get their accolades among their peers but not a dime to someone who really needs it.
These preachers are no better than lying politicians. Actually they are worse because they do it all in the name of God. Pastors at least most there may be a few that are really doing ‘’God’s work” but not many. In fact a lot of them are tangled up into the one world religion. That’s all I will say about that. You can look it up.
Another controlling phrase preachers use is "You need to forgive... " this phrase puts all the blame on you. No matter what they did " you need to forgive". A man beats his wife and children but she is the one who needs to forgive. This ends up scapegoating you putting the blame on YOU because YOU won’t forgive. My family of narcs do that. I’ve been told that I need to “soften my heart”….
My friends churches like this are the perfect breeding ground for narcissistic abuse. If your church is guilting you into anything run, run fast and run far... The pastors of these churches will work to keep you and your abusers together. They will offer counseling to you both but YOU will be the one who needs to change and conform not your abuser.
If this is your church, stop going!! I’m not telling you to turn your back on God. Church isn’t the only place to worship God. Open your own bible, read the word for yourself. God can teach you deeper messages that what you get from the pulpit. If this is not your church consider yourself fortunate but keep an open eye on the church and your pastor. You might be led down the wrong path and in the end You are responsible for your own life. Be careful on who you choose to follow and where they are leading. *
The timing of this is great. We are coming to the time, or at the time now, where, going to church is a bad thing. God is in control/forgiving/no judging, is all part and parcel of the narcissistic agenda. To teach us to give up and let others have the control over our lives.
ReplyDeleteThank you is held off doing it for a week. I appreciate your comment.
DeleteYeah, and these dirtbags tell their brainwashed flocks that "blessing your enemy" means subjecting yourself to the always unGodly drivel of narcissistic (if not just plain cruel) family members. These Reverend Wolfcraps certainly leave out alot of Scripture.
ReplyDeleteIt's more the norm now days than the exception. There is a blog "A Cry for Justice" that deals with this very subject.
DeleteI had one good pastor, but even twhile he was a nice guy I have parted ways from his beliefs. Most were control freaks living far higher socioeconomic lifestyles then me. I believe the churches are failing to even face evil head on because the narcs and sociopaths are running much of the church show, this is why entire chapters of the bible are cut out like "departing from the wicked" and the verses warning about those "make merchandise of you. More and more the churches have become empty surface "niceness" where conformity counts far more then any love of God or truth. Just look the Duggars they are the epitome of this. Their morally deranged son, is a result of their hypocrisy and narcissistic playtime of religious appearances. His best spiritual bet is to get away from the whole family if any conscience is left there at all.
ReplyDeleteI think the "God is in control" line is atheist making stuff, as well as my posts warning how many are now believing God is sending them evil things even like cancer.
The "Don't judge" line is to shut down discernment.
The money thing bugged me. The last pastor I had never stopped with the tithing talk. Theres the big money rip off artists but remember there's plenty of smaller versions of them. Religion as a money-making venture. .
I had an old fashioned church where the church actually helped feed people in the congregation. they took a church donation for one members light bill when the father of the house became unemployed. That is where the good pastor was from. But he left, and the church is gone. I didn't realize how extraordinarily RARE that all was. People actually getting help within the church.
In a lot of these churches what community? Most show up like a theatre show to watch the "sermon" and then file out. They have nothing to do with each other the rest of the week.
That's sad about the pastor refusing to comfort or help the faily of that girl.
The poor if anything are leaving the churches. Being a poor person, I'll be frank. We can't afford them. You will not see other poor people in churches. I have visited several churches here, there were no other poor people. Even working class was very rare.
All good advice. The bible warns of a great falling away. I believe we are in the time now. I won't join with a church united with Rome or Babylon and that is 99% of them too. Many Christians are coming out of the church system. They are seeing it for what it is.
I don't even believe in the one man show. The attention is supposed to be on Jesus Christ not one man in the pulpit the whole show revolves around.
Revelation 2:6
But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.
Being an ACON without a family too is hell in the church system too. They have turned families into idols there. You will never see single or childless people in the churches around here either.
I feel relived to be done with the churches. I will keep praying and reading my bible.